Pool Report Regarding Johnson Incompletion

Posted by Chrissie Wywrot on September 12, 2010 – 5:48 pm

Lions at Bears Pool Report: Referee Gene Steratore

Q. What is the rule used on the near Detroit touchdown at the end of the game?
A. The ruling is that in order for the catch to be completed he has got to maintain possession of the ball throughout the entire process of the catch.

Q. He was on his behind before he rolled over. If he stayed on his behind would it have been a touchdown?
A. No. We don’t play with the two feet or one knee or anything of that scenario. We’re talking now about the process of the catch. He’s catching the football, as he goes to the ground, he must maintain possession of the ball throughout the entire process. So as he continues to fall if he fell with two feet and his elbow hit the ground and came out it would be incomplete.

Q. It looked like he had the ball up in one hand while on his rear end, but there was continuation?
A. Well, the process was not finished until he finished that roll and the entire process of that catch.

Q. How long did it take to determine that?
A. We had the normal time as far as the video was concerned. We would not run it any longer.

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300 Responses to “Pool Report Regarding Johnson Incompletion”

  1. By Adam on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Gene, you’re seeing things that aren’t there. He caught the ball. He came down with possession. That’s it.

  2. By Jeremy F. on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Worst call ever. even the NFL network the NFL’s own tv station is saying that is a BS call. The lions got highjacked. This is a conspericy to the the lions down. Prob not but it sounds funny.

  3. By Chuck on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The ref’s alway s help the Lions…….

  4. By Kyle on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    How much did the Chicago Bears Pay you to call this game. What a joke.. How come when a running back runs into the endzone and lets the ball out of his hands it’s still considered a touchdown..

  5. By Matt Johnston on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    It was a good call by the rule book. But what a flawed and fubar rule… when does the process of catching the ball end — on the flight home? Weak as water, NFL rule makers.

    -Matt in Boston

  6. By philip on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    do you think this rule should be changed?

  7. By jamie lawson on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    So how much did the referees make off of that rig job? Just curious? Use some common since!! That was a catch, and the nfl should issue an apology to the detroit lion organization. If you don’t, you have no credibility.

  8. By Casey on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    If this rule goes by this standard, then nobody can ever celebrate by spiking the ball. There is no way in this world you can tell me this wasn’t a touchdown. Mike Williams caught a ball the same way a few hundred miles away and it was ruled a TD. This is ridiculous. I love the Lions, but I am boycotting everything NFL besides their games until we, as fans, get an apology.

  9. By Teno on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    What determines this nebulous “process of the catch”? Does he have to carry the ball back to the team bus? How do you know he wasn’t spiking the ball on the way back up?

    The ref at the EZ called it a TD. How can you say it was called incomplete on the field?

  10. By Joe on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Worst call ever, he had possession the whole time, he threw the ball down upon getting up because he thought it was a touchdown…not in Genes book, even had Mike Prevaira, the snake who rewrites these rules as the game progresses there live backin up the reffs. I’m not a lions fan or a bears fan but that call was complete shit.

  11. By Damond on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    How come the touchdown counted for the Seahawks, (Mike Williams) he lost the ball as he landed in the endzone? Sounds like the same rule, but the Seahawks got the touchdown.

  12. By Mr Giv'ner on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    He caught the ball, both feet, his butt, a shoulder down. He rolled over and put the ball down as he was getting back up. I’m sorry, if that’s not a catch I must be watching the wrong sport. I thought this was football.

  13. By Scott in Minneapolis on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I agree with Matt… A rushing touchdown doesn’t call for “possession throughout the process”, so why would such a rule exist for a passing touchdown???? Possession upon breaking the goal plane would seem to be better rule. That call was WEAK!!!!!!!

  14. By Detroit Fan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Dumbest rule I have ever heard of. This was a farce. The Detroit Lions earned this win!

  15. By James on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    If that was a correct interpretation of the rule, then the rule should be changed. There is too much language in that rule about a “process,” which ultimately means nothing. He caught the ball and then he put it down.

  16. By Edwin on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    That was the most horrific call of all time! That control the ball to the ground only applies when your feet or knee doesn’t hit the ground first. Just wrong man. I think the head ref is one of Tim Donaghy’s boys.

  17. By Ralph Spangler on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Well congratulations Gene Steratore!! You rank right up there with Phil Luckett now. I’d be so proud.

  18. By Steve on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    This was the worst call I’ve seen in pro sports history! Video reviews have ruined the game! How in the heck can this rule apply to a receiver who makes a fantastic catch, gets knocked to the ground by contact, and has the ground knock the ball out of his hands about 1 1/2 seconds after gaining control. If this is not a catch, the NFL needs to entirely re-write the rule book! What a joke!

  19. By Dan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Calvin made the catch, then had at least 2 steps in the end zone, lands on his backside, rolls over, holding the ball in one hand, leaves the ball on the ground, CLEARLY lets go, (NOT a drop), AND you call it incomplete? Come on! It was a catch! One of the worst calls that I’ve ever seen!

  20. By Chris Ager on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Can’t believe this, crazy decision and blatantly obvious to all…the NFL site is full of fans agreeing (even non Lions fans!) This has robbed the Lions of a great opening win and a huge game winning TD.

  21. By megan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    What kind of a clown car did these nfl refs pile out of?

  22. By Ron on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Its a bs call. Touchdown all the way. How is it that donald driver had a catch like that with the ball moving but he scored go figure we were in chi-town come to the D and try that garbage! Go lions

  23. By james on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Pure garbage. That was a catch. He was on his butt with the ball firmly in control. Lions got robbed.

  24. By JMH on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Typical mechanical interpretation of a rule completely ignoring context. The rule is intended for when two guys are fighting for the ball or it is being bobbled. Taken in context of the play it was an obvious TD. Bears get a freebie and Lions lose again.

  25. By Fred on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    This rule needs to be changed. I can understand if it was a circus catch that may have gone either way, but this was a two handed catch, total control of the ball with at least 3 steps and landing on the ground.

    TOTAL CONTROL of the ball the entire time.

    Mike Williams for Seatle should be called back too because he dropped the ball after he entered the endzone. Just sayin…


  26. By VaLionsFan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Calvin put the ball down after he completed the catch and saw the ref signal a touchdown. I guess you cant spike the ball after catching it in the endzone according to that rule. They used the rule to justify stealing the game from the lions. They knew Calvin caught it and used his putting the ball down to celebrate as an excuse. Quote the rule book all you like, what they did wasnt the intent of the rule.

  27. By CominWitDaSauce on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Hang on, Calvin Johnson has a time machine. He went back in time as he was falling with possession. Three hours later, while he’s at dinner, he puts it down to eat. Unfortunately the Ref saw, and the Bears win. Nothing gets past the Refs in the NFL, they should be commended. Lol, when does Olympic Swimming start or something, this is stupid.

  28. By Alvin on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    This interpretation doesn’t make sense. He wasn’t juggling the ball as he was falling. 2 hands, 2 feet, then body hits at rear end, knee then left elbow. Ball being held all the way down with his right had. He had possession…

  29. By Gary Trombley on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The NFL rules committee can use another “process” and shove a football up their collective #&!& !! What a disgraceful call.

  30. By Betski on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I am no lions fan but that was a BS call. Player was on his behind when he landed and when he rolled over he was getting up . Dont tell me about the process of catching the ball when the player is on his butt and obviously both knees where down dont tell me that he doesnt have the possesion of the ball. Other players in the league do the same thing….rulemakers should reevaluate their position in the rule.

  31. By ROBBEDLIONFAN#01 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    According to “the rule” CJ has to lose possession BEFORE to the ball touching the ground. Didn’t happen. TD Moron!

  32. By Keith Josephson on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Why hasn’t anyone asked him the pertinent question of: “Isn’t the process over once he clearly has possession of the ball in the endzone?”. He landed with clear control on two feet, was then off balance and threw himself to the ground before letting the ball go on his way up. The ‘process’ was over once he had clear possession in the endzone. That is a clear TD. He clearly let the ball go to get up and celebrate after the ‘process’ was over. The ground didn’t ‘help’ him hold onto the ball/he wasn’t still trying to gain possession. He had it. Play over.

  33. By jack on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    He clearly had full position of the ball. 2 feet down, then hit butt and then he rolled over to get up and celebrate, clearly using the ball to get up. Maybe if he completed 2 jumping jacks, 2 sit ups and 2 push ups, he may have completed the “process”? Get real! What a horrible call. It doesn’t even fit the horrible rule.

  34. By Keith Fuller on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I saw a highlight today of Chris Johnson of the Titans crossing the plane with the football. As he crossed it he threw the ball out of the back of the endzone before any part of his body ever even touched the ground in the end zone. Calvin Johnson had complete control of the ball when both feet touched and when he landed on his butt and used his other hand to break his fall. He then rolled over, hit the ball to the ground in the end zone and let go of the ball as he began to run in celebration. How after being on his butt and rolling over to get up to run should it be considered a continuation of a catch? If that’s not a touchdown then maybe the Chris Johnson touchdown should have been a fumble out of the back of the endzone for a touchback. Where does the NFL draw the line on technicalities so it doesn’t take away from the element of the game?

  35. By ROBBEDLIONFAN#01 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    According to “the rule” CJ has to lose possession BEFORE to the ball touches the ground. Didn’t happen. TD Moron!

  36. By Teno on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    ;”Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 1 of the NFL Rule Book (page 51) states that ‘if a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact with an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.”‘

    He maintained control of the ball AFTER he touched the ground. It’s a TD by rule.

  37. By M. Loftus on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    As a bears fan I think the Lions got jobbed.How can a pass be incomplete when the ball is used to get up and start the party. Sometimes a little common sence is a good thing.

  38. By Rabbott on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    If this happened on the sideline and he had possession with both feet in bounds then landed on his knees, butt and one hand out of bounds before losing the ball they would have called it a catch. This call defies common sense and the NFL should be embarrassed by this call. I think even Jim Joyce could have gotten this one right.

  39. By paul on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    a running back doesn’t even have to be in the end zone only the ball must cross the plane. stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  40. By Mike on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Well for one I believe it was a catch. How many parts of your body have to touch the ground before they call it a completion? In my opinion the Lions won that game because when Calvin Johnson made the catch he dropped both feet a knee and while maintaining possetion his elbow and the football and preceded to jump up because of the completion,and of course the NFL review says that he did not have complete control. But if a Halfback crosses plane and the ball comes out it is a touchdown, kinda Ironic if u ask me. That’s ok I have faith in my lions and I know what happened it just seems we can’t catch a break no matter what. I also hope that Matthew Stafford is ok, he is our #1 QB.

  41. By tony m. on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    exactly how long is the process? i’ve been looking at td receptions from around the league today and alot of recievers catch two feet down and drop the ball or throw it into crowd.how is that different from calvin johnson catching ,two feet down,butt on the ground? seems like calvins catch is more of a catch then others that count. doesn’t make sense.

  42. By Greg on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Is it me or does Gene Steratore look a lot like Jim Joyce?…..

  43. By angry Lions Fan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Steratore ~ you seriously gotta get some glasses or something. That was a TD plain and simple..he followed through. The Bears must have offered you a bunch of money during one of the timeouts to call the game like that. That call was BS and you know that. Detroit won that game. I think the Commish should take a look at that rule. The Lions are on the road to recovery and you ruined it for them. No matter what anyone says We won that game!!!

  44. By Bob on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Absolutely terrible call. And with instant replay… First umps take a perfect game from the Tigers, now refs take a TD and a win from the Lions. If I had to wear a striped shirt in Detroit, I would invest in a bulletproof vest.

  45. By jake on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I agree with Kyle. When does the process end? They spent 5-7min deliberating the ruling. It almost seems like no one really knew if the “process” had completed or not and just made a decision on the fly. Today’s official result shows the rule needs to clearly define the end of the process so refs don’t stand around with their finger in their nose and make bad calls.

  46. By Brian on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    According to the rules it was the right call…Terrible rule that should be changed.

  47. By George on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    its not even a good call by the rule book.. the rules designed to make sure players maintain possesion when they dive for a ball or fall while catching a pass.. not when they clearly have 2 feet and a “behind” in with clear possesion… If he would have stayed up after 2 feet or even fell and stayed down it would have been a catch, but because he got up without the ball they screwed him. TERRIBLE.

    How’s the ref seriously going to answer the 2nd question with a NO? So if he caught it and just stayed on his butt for a cpl minutes with clear posession, it wouldnt be a catch? lol really..

  48. By RIch Wicker on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Proud Lion’s Fan very disappointed in NFL officiating. What a joke! You can say what you want but Calvin clearly caught the winning touchdown.

    Go Lions!!!

  49. By dylan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    he caught the ball got two feet down fell on his butt and then still had the ball all the way down to the ground. it was a catch. its bull crap

  50. By sj on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I understand it is what it is at this point, but Sir Gene….in looking and watching other games from today – I’ve seen MANY touchdowns that don’t seem to follow the process. For example – Mike Williams on Seatte….check it out. Expalin what he does differently than what CJ did? You guys truly just can’t swallow your pride and admit you made a bad call!!!

    I’ve been a season ticket holder for a while now and feel so sick from all of this and the way the NFL can’t even apologize.

  51. By JD on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    He clearly had possession and had the ball in bounds. Touchdown. That is a complete perversion of the rule Gene. A relatively common occurrence in the game of football is a receiver catching the ball in the endzone, appearing to gain possession, quickly getting his feet in bounds, stepping out and the immediately spiking the ball, which is always ruled a touchdown. Where is your interpretation of the continuation rule in that case Gene? There were other refs on the field that said it was a touchdown, all the commentators on radio and tv said touchdown. You blew it Gene, and then your pride and/or fear of chicago and/or your love of the Bears got in the way of you fixing your mistake.

  52. By vernon on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    i would like to know how the rule descibes the end of the process ?

  53. By Rick on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Lets get this straight, if he goes up in the air at the10 yard line, catches the ball, comes down on his toes in bounds and falls out of bounds it’s a catch. He clearly goes up, catches the ball, down on two feet, falls on his butt, still has control,

    No catch???? What a horrible call!

  54. By tyler bowman on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    there is gonna be weeks of them saying its a legit call but in the end anyone that knows football is gonna look at this and say calvin johnson caught that ball and if you say he didnt you are wrong period

  55. By Don on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    One of the refs put his hands up to rule a touchdown before Calvin Johnson released the ball. Calvin Johnson was looking directly at the ref. as he did so. To indicate that the play was complete, by indicating that it was a touchdown, and then to reverse it, simply isn’t fair.

    Paired with the robbing of Galarraga’s perfect game being acknowledged, it does seem as if it’s okay to dump on any Detroit team, simply because it’s Detroit.

    This play should be reversed, and the rule rescinded.

  56. By Cody Wharton on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Man this made me mad! The ref standing right there called it a TD and then some clown comes over and says he lost possession. Give me a break! The NFL Refs are a joke and so Gene Steratore

  57. By Kevin on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Worst call ever in The NFL. Thats a TD and always will be!

  58. By Daryl on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    He got up to celebrate, this wasnt part of the “process” He finished the play on his ass, then turned to get up to celebrate. How could you guys not see that?

  59. By yooperman on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    this has to be the worst call in the history of the NLF!! johnson clearly caught the ball. MR. FORD i hope you read these comments if you care about LIONS football and file a protest with the commissioner or the LIONS will keep getting screwed ! they should rule it a TOUCHDOWN and finish the rest of the game with 24 seconds remaining before the start of the next BEARS/LIONS game at ford field this will be fair to both teams this way !

  60. By The Brick on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    How can you say he didn’t have possession for the entire process? What is the entire process? If he caught the ball and took two steps then tripped and fell, causing yhe ball to come out, would it be complete or incomplete?
    Or what if a player spikes the ball right after he catches it?
    And why is the rule different for a TD than it is for a normal catch or a sideline catch?

  61. By J.S. LaFreniere on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    What happened to “ground cannot cause a fumble?” Because the ball came out when it hit the ground…after both Johnson’s feet landed and the rest of his body…all in bounds. Can the ground now cause a fumble?

  62. By jw on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    They are making the rules up as they go along. That was a catch in everyone’s eye’s even the ref that was in front of the play.
    First Gallaraga now the lions. Did anyone see Welkers TD.
    The NFL is a joke.

  63. By mike on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    he dropped the ball when he was standing back up , bad job of the ref interpreting the rule. sometimes common sense has to used. If it would have counted the bears or there fans would not have complained one bit

  64. By The Brick on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The rule just sucks!

  65. By Michael on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    He was down. He was turning to get up with the ball. At best the ground can’t cause and fumble, or did that rule change also? And I’m already tired of hearing the word “PROCESS”

  66. By RobinMI2AZ on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    That was the worst call I ever saw. He has the ball with one hand, no bobble, lands with two feet. That’s a TD, always has been until some idiot decides they need to change a rule that has stood for years. Show possession land with both feet or with one and a drag the other and now what run the length of the endzone to prove you have the ball.

    If the NFL keeps making up these stupid rules next we won’t be allowed to tackle or touch anyone. If this is the rule why didn’t the ref in the end zone seem to understand it, he called it a touchdown.
    Unfortunate for a team with enough upsets to be cheated on a stupid rule change.

  67. By Nate on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    By the rule, He was on the ground with the ball held in the air with full possession. If you watch closely, he even kind of bounced and still had the ball. Then rolled over and left the ball at the edge of the end zone. If when he caught the ball and got both feet down like he did and at that time would have fell out of the endzone back or would have been pushed out, that would have been enough for the td, but the fact that he held on and stayed in bounds and hit the ground while maintaining the ball, he basically is being told that he had to get up with it. If you made a check list of everything that had to happen in that rule to be a TD and checked things of as they occured, you would realize, “oh, i guess that was a TD.” I think that everyone explaining this will be told to do so, so that it can kinda cover up this mistake. No matter what the team and fans and commentators are told, they are going to be told how it was correct. Even basing it off of that stupid rule, if you put a hecklist together and check things off as it occurs, the checklist will be checked in full before he even puts that ball on the ground. Also if a man can be pushed out near the pylon just enough for the ball to tap the pylon without actually touching the end zone, and thats a TD… then this definitely is. The way I see it if the Air hovering above the endzone is enough to qualify for a TD, then this shouldnt even been in Question. Also how can one ref already turn over the call before it hits the booth. It should have remained a TD like the first ref called and whe it went to the booth review there should not have been enough evidence to overturn the TD.

  68. By The Brick on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    How do we get a look at the actual rule?

  69. By Deanna on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    All I can say is REALLY? You know some official had money on this. There is no other way this wasn’t a TD.

  70. By sani24 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    this referring was horrible it was a completion and CJ had complete control of the ball the one handed thing was just part of this style..horrible reffering again i cant stand the call and rule..and stafford hurt now ahh man sucks hopefully he’ll be aint and ready to go next week

  71. By jusitn on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    This has to be the worst call in sports history. I understand how you may have been confused by the rule but please, you should be the pros here. Do the right thing and go back to working high school games.

  72. By Jason on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    A crappy call all the way.I agree with kyle.If rb dont have to hold on to the ball after it crosses the line why should a wr. Both feet were down with posession in one hand,touchdown.Its a example of home field advantage (BS)

  73. By Bigmill on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    We Got ROBBED!!!! This is a stupid rule. It was not even close!!!

  74. By ryan c on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I’ve seen running backs barely cross the line with only an arm and a ball and score even if the ground causes bounce out of their hand as long as it breaks the plain.. he cleaely tipped toed both feet before holding the ball in the air while falling on a knee and his left hand before rolling on his ass and went straight into celebration..all of that played out and how many seconds of clear control is required…not to mention the next 2 plays should have been flagged for interference.. but then again look at how many booth reviews came about..doesn’t that mean the refs aren’t doing their job if the booth steps in repeatidly.. you tell me

  75. By Kevin on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    If that is a rule it’s not enforced in games going on right now? Poor rule.

  76. By Steve C on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I’d rather watch the Lions win, and be proud of what Chicago put together, then watch something like this…. What a croc….I get upset seeing another team lose from a rule that does not apply.

  77. By LionsFan420 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The NFL really screwed thi one up, Ive been a lions fan for 20 years and been heartbroken every year by extremely bad calls. I think I;m starting to even see a trend. I think the lions should hold out the next game and make a statement! and when we do play again, I say we Crush them hurt quarterbacks, any other people. crush the refs also no remorse. This is DETROIT! how long are we gonna let them get away with this CRAP?

  78. By TexRex96 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Looked to me like the refs ignored the spirit of the rule and the call on the field, then over-reached to deny the catch. Johnson clearly had possession while going down on his knee where the play should have been dead. And when is the “process of the catch” over? Johnson assumed the catch was over after hitting the ground and he purposely put the ball on the field.

  79. By lions21 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I was under the impression rules were set to protect the integrity of the game not to set the outcome of the game. it’s a bad confusing rule and i still want confermation on what the PROCESS is. Two feet down ,ball in hand with total control… is that NOT a TD. Come on coach say somthing to them to let them know its wrong or are you that afraid of what they’ll do if you speak your mind. Grow a pair you won that game!

  80. By C.K. on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    @philip: Change the rule??? More like drop that particular rule from the books and fire ALL the IDIOTS that suggested, implemented and (allegedly) enforced this travesty/ so-called “rule”

  81. By LionsFan420 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    STAND UP AND MAKE A STATEMENT. That would have been a TD if it was the Colt’s, or thea Pats, or the steelers, or Green Bay, ECT.

  82. By Lynn on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Ooooooohhhh! Myyyyyyyyyy GGGGGGooooooD! You have to be kidding me!!!!!!!! How many teams the rest of the year are going to have this same catch and have it called a touchdown! WHAT A JOKE! The Lions are not suppose to win!

  83. By mokat on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I can’t help it. I feel betrayed by the NFL. That wasn’t just a blown call – that was the NFL re-defining what it means to catch a ball. Don’t they realize how fundamentally that changes the game?

  84. By Suomi on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    That was, hands-down, the jaw-droppingly WORST call I’ve ever seen in a Lions game. Calvin was simply getting up after the completed pass when he pushed off on the football…that action had NOTHING to do with control of the ball after the catch. Unbelievable.

  85. By bill on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    If I saw the re that made that call i would spit in his face, and then, when he got tough about it i would rip his arms off and beat his numb skull with them. Kiss my a– –ithead

  86. By Pogie on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    He had possesion with both hands both feet down in end zone then one handed with ball body went down and it looks like his left hand touches the out of bounds line which calls the play to a end which is a touchdown in the end zone.

  87. By Dan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    What is the difference when a receiver goes in for a touchdown and flips the ball away just as he crosses the goal-line. There is no continued process there? This is another rule that is killing the NFL….Lions won that game and the NFL should be ashamed of themselves for even having a rule like that!

  88. By by the book on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The Lions were robbed plain and simpele. This call was as bas as the famous tuck rule!!! It just goes to show untill the Lions win they won’t get any respect from the zebra’s

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  90. By the weazel on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    im a bears fan.. you guys got robbed. his other hand may have been out of bounds after he had possesion and fallen on his butt. if it was that would have been the end of PROCESS. touchdown detroit anywau you look at it

  91. By Tyler Fan of Detroit on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Wow, I jumped out of my seat thinking CJ the best receiver in the league by far had caught a game-winning Touchdown pass. Oh yeah I forgot they add a new dumb-ass rule every year. Terrible Rule on the NFL’s behalf. Lions are 1-0 in my book.

  92. By Preston on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I can not believe how Detroit can get so snubbed by the NFL and get away with it. Tell Ford himself give me a free seat for the season and all the beer and food i can eat and if something like this again happens ill personally run out onto the field lighting quick and lay the reff out with a blind side punch to the temple. Seriously…no really im serious TELL HIM.

  93. By Erich on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The NFL officiating will do ANYTHING to keep the Detroit Lions in the Basement. I have absolutely no faith in the NFL or any individual in management. Their track record is pathetic. Now if the same play was run and executed by say, the Patroits…hmmm, TOUCHDOWN, no need for a review

  94. By Mark Crawford on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Very very poor. All these rule changes every year I fear are going to lose fans including this one. It was clear that he made the catch and had full possession, you can see this in the replay as he begins to lift the ball siightly as if to say “ya, we won”. I don’t know how players and or refs can keep track of these ridiculous rule changes every year. Something really needs to be done.

  95. By LionsFan420 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply


  96. By Jill on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The Lions were robbed! I agree that it is the “team” that got picked on. A “bigger” team would have had a touchdown. How unfair.

  97. By Dave C. on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Pass, Catch, 2 feet in, Possession… TOUCHDOWN,Lands on Butt, Possession… TOUCHDOWN!! Rolled over put ball on ground with possession play should be dead (I thought ground can’t cause a Fumble) got up to celebrate a great and exciting play to win a great game and leaves the ball on the ground TOUCH FREEKING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Farve to anyone and they don’t even consider looking at it, That was a great throw and catch. Great Job guy’s

  98. By Garrett on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    All over nfl.com people who aren’t fans of the lions are stating they feel this is a catch. Even bears fans say that was a touchdown. A guy gets excited to celebrate a remarkable catch quicker than what a old refs slow eyes can process and he calls it incomplete. If fans think it is a touchdown catch and should be a touchdown catch then rules should be changed to make sure this doesn’t happen again. Quit changing things (thats you nfl) to the point where fans aren’t interested in watching the game.

  99. By Greg on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    What a GREAT game. Through all the adversity emerged one heck of a team. In my eyes the Lions looked better than I haved seen in years. CJ fantastic catch, outstanding “D” holding for all four downs. You are BIG WINNERS in my book. – Still a Lions Fan

  100. By LionsFan420 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply


  101. By david flickema on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    that was a touchdown i almost dont want to watch the nfl anymore that was as bad as jim joyces call in the no hitter for galarga unbelieveable i hope the refs get fined or fired.

  102. By rm3lambs on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The referees are applying the rule as if the catch occurred in the field of play where there is a process with continuation and a football move must be made. This is completely inapplicable in the end-zone. Once you have crossed the plane with control of the ball, whether it is via pass or run, it is a touchdown.

    It would be good if the referees would actually try to understand the rule book instead of just finding a chapter and verse that supports their perverse call.

    Referees 2, Detroit 0…maybe we should boycott all refereed sports.

  103. By LionsFan420 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    If you guys dont do something about this than you are pussycats.

  104. By gary witkowski on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The game is FIXED. Plan and simple.

  105. By steve moore on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    we won game over touchdown Calvin Johnson

  106. By Rick on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    It rule was right, he made the catch. All Johnson had to do was stay on his back, get up (without puting the ball on the ground) and throw the ball down, then celebrate. Instead he loses his concentration, plays like a sandlot kid and didn’t have his head in the game. To be a winner, you have to play like and winner!

  107. By Jek on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Bad rule but the right call based on the rule. Be honest lion fans. I’m a huge bears fan and am actually mad about this win, but to be honest the bears wanted to give this game away. Look at the stats in every category. I feel bad for the lions and lion fans and I would be mad if it was the other way around, but if you watched the game the bears were the much better team with the worst coach in the NFL. Based on a bs rule it was the right call.

  108. By jwhite on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    We demand an apology from the officials. Heck, we should be awarded the game! What a farce.

  109. By joe desonia on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Congratulations to the NFL for contributing to their demise in an extremely efficient manner. No more football for me this year, it once again just aggravated me to watch a game.

  110. By gary on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The game is FIXED. Plain and simple.

  111. By UnaSalusVictus on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    A BS call. The NFL has only on course to follow, that would be to give the win to the Lions.

  112. By lions#20 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    He caught the ball he hit the ground due to contact. therfore he is tackled right????? then he also commited a football move after the catch by rolling on his back so the ground can’t cause a fumble if im not mistaken??? complete bogus win should go to lions. because the 6 points would have won the game no need for extra point.

  113. By Mark Cooper on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Absolutely pathetic…If the rule was clear cut, then why did the official right there call it a TD??? The ref right there called it a TD…Does he not understand the rules??? If that had been Manning to Wayne, it would have stayed a TD!!!

  114. By Bill on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The officials are WRONG; just as they were in the Gallarogel situation.He had control until he slammed it on the ground. The officials suck. and have lost my confidence in them. Just like this government/

  115. By Matt on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Everybody knows the truth of this — you can’t defend this garbage rule. Read the comments anywhere. Bears fans know it was a touchdown too, and are admitting it. Everybody but the officials know, apparently

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  117. By Ben on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Hey maybe the NFL should make more rules like this……lower the scoring, that should help grow the game!

  118. By NFLisAjoke on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    biggest joke in history. mike perriera and his buddy gene should off themselves. once again… another corrupt sport let down. first mlb players are cheating, then nba refs are throwing games. i was hoping the nfl would hang in and stay true, but it wasn’t so. roger goodell needs to seriously evaluate his staff and his rule book because he is slowly losing his sport. mike perriera giving live bogus input on tv should not be allowed… he is obviously on someone else’s payroll other than mr. goodell. roger, if you read this… please at least issue an apology and put a muzzle on mike’s mouth.

  119. By Ken Wood on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Then a receiver who catches a ball with 2 hands (but doesn’t pull it in) and runs 80 yards with it extended away from his body, crosses the goal line and spikes the ball, would be deemed incomplete because the assumption that they seem to be making is that in the “process” of the completion, you need to pull the ball in for it to be complete. Or, better yet, the way I read it, the “process” of a catch is not complete until a receiver is down (if you’re on your ass after a catch, which CJ was, you should be deemed as being down). Therefore, a receiver can never fumble a ball because if he made a catch ran 10 yards, got tackled and fumbled while he was on his ass, the catch is not complete because the “process” is not complete until he is down, which, apparently, sitting on your ass is not considered as being downed. Ah the perks of being a receiver…

  120. By Bill on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Wow so happy to see all you fans sticking up for our Lions it makes me feel that im right for being so mad Can Anyone say FIX? well Roger the puppet Godell you owe the lions team coaches and thier fans an apologize

  121. By lionsforever(carlene) on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    i am a detroit die hard fan and was celebrating the touchdown at the same time calvin was!! i refuse to believe that the chicago bears think they won this game! shame on them!! can’t the nfl commissioner do something about this? looked a little but have never found an incident where a call has ever been overturned such as this. if ever a case had merit to be overturned this would be it!!

  122. By Ian Vanderhill on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    According to the guy that made this call, a significant number of touchdowns by great wide receivers of years past should be called illegitimate? It is a ridiculous rule that is stated very ambiguously. Furthermore, he never lost possession of the ball throughout the whole “process” until after he was down on his ass in the endzone still holding it, and then he set it down. It wasn’t even the correct call according to the strange definition of an absurd new rule.

  123. By rangerat on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Obviously the wrong call. But it was not that close a call, clearly a catch with control.

    If Bret Favre had thrown it, there would be no question.

    Then on the next play the corner clearly was holding Johnsons arm. Another call that was not close.

  124. By V on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    He catches ball, defender HITS him as he’s going down. Calvin is DOWNED when he hits the ground! How come all of a sudden, in the ENDZONE is there continuation. This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen.

  125. By Kevin on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Please all of us send a email to the NFL.

  126. By Jeff on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    wow still cant get over that call and i’m a diehard bears fan from chicago you guys def. got a bs call we did not deserve to win that one, but we have to take whatever we can get at this point!!!!!!!!

  127. By Benn Perry on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Complete idiocy!

    For that matter EVERY SINGLE CATCH EVER MADE could “eventually” be ruled a no catch.

    Give me a break and stop taking it with such a passive-aggressive attitude, Schwartz.

    And NO you didn’t have MANY CHANCES to win during the game after Stafford went down because Linehan didn’t give Hill the opportunity to throw the ball other than on the obvious third and long; which the league has been able to defense against the Lions even during BOBBY LAYNE’S days, for Pete Rose’s sake!

  128. By Markeia on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    That was a TD! If that wasn’t a TD then half of the TD’s in the NFL should be overturned! Bad call and they know it! But they gotta shake this one off and focus on next week! GO LIONS!

  129. By Benn Perry on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Will someone tell me why there’s NO VIDEO posted to the Detroit Lions’ web site of this so-called NO CATCH!

    The reason there isn’t, is the same reason Scwartz and Johnson refuse to diss the refs – fear of fines and league repercussion.

    It is a reign, not a league. Even Ivan the Terrible would blush from this atrocity!

  130. By George on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Listen, I’ve tried to avoid the conspiracy theory type talk for years but it just seams that ever horrible call goes against the Lions and their fans. If that wasn’t a catch then about 45% of all touchdown passes should be overturned because most receivers do not “complete the catch process” it’s crazy that after the play was signaled a touchdown by the official closest to the play and every other official in the frame while the Lions are celebrating it gets changed on an obscure rule. What? Is this now the PGA? The lions lost because they grounded their freaking club before the snap!!! Way to go NFL!!!

  131. By Cowboys Fan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    That was a BS call. Lions had it all the way. Every year, it’s something different with these rules. Not a Lions fan but I think they deserve an apology.

  132. By Robert Yockey on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Gene you are a moron. He put the ball on the ground when he went to get up. The only process of completion that needs examined is yours during that game. If that call wasn’t bad enough the following pass interference on the very next play took the cake. Of course you must have still been going over Calvins process of completion in your head. Is it just me or do you get a little tired of hearing process of completion. Especially when it is used as an excuse to be a bad ref. Not to mention I have never seen a ref from across the field overturn the call of the ref who was right next to the reception. Amazing, but I guess we all have to respect the “PROCESS OF COMPLETION”. Nope still sounds like a load of crap even in caps.

  133. By Chris on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    BLAH,BLAH,BLAH…..does he really believe the BS that he is peddling??? The process of the catch??? What happened to the ground cannot cause a fumble??

  134. By Sad steve on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I watched a great come back win by the lions taken away by poor NFL rule makers and refs. I’ve watched the NFL since the days of Starr and Unitas and have not seen such a blatantly poor call /bad rule…Either change the new rule or admit that a mistake was made.Please do the right thing for your own sake and that of the sport!!!!!!!!

  135. By Robert Yockey on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I’m violently upset about the game, but I have to give mad props to the defense. Hell to the whole team for once in a long time you all played with heart and gave it your all. You guys make us all proud and like the previous chatters said you are 1-0 in LIONS FANS eyes.

  136. By Brent Harrison on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Is there any truth to the rumor that Jim Joyce is now refereeing Lions games? He WAS just in Detroit, umpiring behind the plate, as Galaraga pitched. Who else could botch such an obvious play? Armando, in my book you still have a perfect game…and Calvin, you caught the winning touchdown! Let’s see if Roger Goddell has more cojones than Bud “Look the other way” Selig.

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  138. By LionsFan420 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Chicken S**t’s they are.

  139. By rangerat on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Ben you are absolutely right, any catch could be incomplete under this type of ruling.

    After the missed interfeerence call in the end zone, Schwartz should have pulled the team off the field.

  140. By RINDUS on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I have played running back in my day. If I jump 3 feet in the air and the ball breaks the plane its a touchdown right? I didn’t hit the ground yet but its a touchdown. If a elbow or a knee is down what is 2 feet and control of the ball? A TOUCHDOWN!!!!! What if the ball is hit out of my hands breaking the plane running the ball 3 feet in the air, it should be a fumble right? NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the worse call I have ever seen in Sports. Ask the VIKINGS last year. The officials need to get it right. The first official in this play called a touchdown. Why is someone 30 yards not feet calling this a bull—— process. The only process is here is retardation. Get it right NFL. Nascar already is ruining itself out you need to keep it right and real. The LIONS won the game. The officials lost it. I don’t want to here we had chances to win. Everyone does but this play was priceless and the head of the NFL officials says it was incomplete. He needs to lose his job tomorrow. Officials make mistakes thats why we have instant replay. Instant replay, the NFL, and the officials lost this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  141. By ridgway on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    this is the poorest call ever made . the ref or refs that made it should be fined and fired

  142. By mot2irol on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    What ever happened to control of the ball and breaking the plane…clearly both of those happened…play over at that point…should have been a touchdown and a Lions win.

  143. By Charles on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    That was the WORST call I have witnessed in years. Completely ridiculous that it is even considered to be anything other than what it was which was a TD! This is why it is so frustrating to watch the NFL. It’s not a players game, it’s a game of rules. Many of which are arbitrarily enforced. Shame on the the whole “PROCESS”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  144. By Richard on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Officiating was well off today. Three times Forte cralwed an extra yard after he was down and the officials gave it to him on their last drive. If C. Johnson’s catch was an incomplete pass, then I want it to be called an incomplete pass when Favre, Brady, or the Manningins throw it. Three of Ocho (whatever his name is) touchdowns last year were just like that and the officals ruled them touchdowns. That is why there are two rules! The NFL rules and the Rules when the Lions are on the field.

  145. By Pcole on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I really have to wonder – if this had been Indy, NO, NE, or a NY team, would this “rule” have been enforced?

  146. By mike on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Horrible call! every year its the same crap. Refs screwing the Lions. This time the whole Country saw it!

  147. By Jason on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    If you also notice after both feet hit the ground his knee also follows by hitting the ground while he has posession of the ball.The play should be dead right there, TUCHDOWN.

  148. By Gary M. Manoogian on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    It is called “Screwed” – Thanks NFL !!!

  149. By swampy on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Exactly when does this process end? After the player changes and showers in the lockeroom? Use your eyes for goodness sake. Forget about misinterpretations of obscure nfl rules. THAT WAS A TOUCHDOWN!

  150. By Jason on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Anyone agree

  151. By mikepod on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Hey at least the refs got the coin flip right this time.

  152. By pat kelly on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    that was the best lions I have ever seen, it took a really bad call to stop them.

  153. By Benn Perry on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    YES, Jason…a catch is a catch is a doggone CATCH!!!!!!!

  154. By Stephen on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    This is a mistake that needs to be addressed. Every one can clearly see that this was a catch for a td. The rule is for the ball being juggled while going to the ground. this ball was not even close to being bobbled but rather caught with two hands switched to one hand then released after the tackle. Refs you should be ashamed to take a pay check for this game.

  155. By jerry younkins on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    If I’m this depressed over the disputable call on the obvious victory td I can imagine how the team feels. I live in s. missouri and don’t get to see many lions games except on highlight films and thanksgiving. I grew up in Detroit and as a kid went to the old tiger stadium to see them play. God I love’em, win or lose. Most of you know what I mean. It is what makes life so frustrating that the structure of the game (or life) can have a greater effect than the efforts of the players. Once again the DETROITS got the short end of the stick. I can only pray that with all the tough times this will not be allowed to sidetrack the improvements that are so obvious. Don’t give up and don’t give in boys. It’s you against the world but there are lot of people who want to see you rise up. You know your fans are with you.It was a stolen touchdown.

  156. By mikepod on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Sports are not about justice. Quite the contrary. Remember that goal Brett Hull scored to win the Stanley Cup a few years ago with that guy standing in the crease? They called those goals off all season long but let THAT one count. Look at Galarraga’s imperfect game. Now this TD? You want justice? It’s just a word.

  157. By Jason on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Thanks benn, im just saying its like its always been that once that knee is down and you have posession thats a dead play.Just like when the running backs knee hits and he isnt fully down and the ball comes loose they dont say its a fumble.His knee was down so the play was dead, should be the same with johnson.

  158. By Chuck on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The worst call ever in my 45 years of NFL college and high scholl football. I wiil not watch another NFL game until the league makes sure this never happens again. How can anyone watch when a stupid call can ruin a game you spend you sunday watching. It was unbelievable and I am sick. Never again NFL

  159. By Mike on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    One of the worst calls in the history of football. It’s not enough to catch the ball in the end zone, take 2 steps, fall on your butt and still maintain possession. But yet it’s perfectly ok to be running the ball and have the very tip cross the plane of the goal, with absolutely no body part being in the end zone. CARE TO EXPLAIN THAT???

  160. By david moore on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The league has become too technical without a clear explaination of what the rule really is. Try explaining it to a kid what Calvin Johnson did wrong in catching that ball period!
    When you make a rule so complicated that it doesn’t make sense to anyone, why would you keep it. However, according to the way it was explained by the ref that ruling does not apply. We all have seen touchdown catches.with less conclusive evidence than this one and after further review they still couldn’t get it right?
    So much for a exciting game winning touchdown catch hat was caught but ruled incomplete.

  161. By Chris K. on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    If Johnson had held onto the ball, this entire thread would be moot. The rule isn’t new and contrary to what many of you think, this rule comes into play just about every weekend in the NFL.

  162. By James on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I haven’t been a Detroit fan or follower, but man did this team get robbed.

    I guess there is a new rule in the NFL. All receivers must hang onto the ball until the whistle ending the game. Don’t let go of the ball ever. Since the refs do not have good judegement on when the play is over, play it safe.

  163. By Craig on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Worse call I have ever seen! The my book 1-0 Lions may not want to complain about the call but we sure can!

  164. By John Langan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Watch the Cowboys vs. Broncos Superbowl 1977 (Golden Richards TD catch) and then tell me that was not a TD.

  165. By LYDELL (Detroit) on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I am forty-two yrs old and I have “never” felt so insulted,direspected,eleviated from basic “inherent”
    rights as a “fan,which is the expectancy of adherence to the rules without “partiality”by the officials in any game!(Q)Did he demonstrate control? yes. Did he come down with the ball in the “endzone” with two feet down?yes.while lying on his back raise one arm up to show/demonstrate play is over?yes.Did he use his left arm for balance getting up and then have control enough of ball to hold it upside down in right hand?yes, Did it fall from his hand while upside down?no. So, when did ball leave his hand? when he used the ball to balance himself in the process of “celebrating”.How or what can over turn a “declared” touch down in under “2:00min” only “indesputiable evidence”Was there enough indesputable evidence? no no no no no and NO!(This is beyond a bad call thisis “diplayedcoruption”,blatant, in regard to the “6 point spread”all about the spread,and money!) egregious,terrible,reminds me of “rodney King” “no, we did not see thaaat!what your actually seeing is what they tell us, just as bogus!I will also boycott w/exception to games on tv! Where is the “commissioner”?What is his email? tell the “mobb man” its time to come out of the shadows! No justice-no peace! no-justice-noo peace!Where are the fines? Repremand that head referee “severely”. We must let this league no “we aint goin fo that hommiie”.I cant believe that we got jacked to meet some “underlords” predictions in order to keep his higher apeased! This is supposed to be about the fans and there game, not some hidden agenda that we certainly did not agree to!I cant believe I am still writing it just goes to show you how agravated the injustice as made me! They have no humility the audacity to try and justify/rationalize this “madness” is unpresedented! My God, I know times are hard but the “NFL” condoning,resorting to thievery,slickery,trickery and underhandedness? Ridiculous! If I had not witnessed with my own eyes, I would not be saying anything but, as a “veteran” fan of the sport I have to speak on this because it is totally obserd what I am hearing and seeing starting to trend in the “NFL”. Listen, this is the first for us,but whats interesting is “we will be the last”,Why? because the rules being recited, useing the temperance displayed by todays ref’s is not the “norm” fact!What? “indisputable evidence” there was simply not enough! On this they will all hang.Its as if there was a fumble and then review, the real rules say to over turn the fumble “ruling” there must be indesputable evidence!!!!!And since the refs’ had none we are stuck looking at the obvious “CORUPTION” and that at its “WORST”and if so then where is there room for “enjoyment” for the game?You are sucking it out of the fan through making “fair play” “exempt”. In ending, I personally consider this to be a serious catastrophe of justice! The NFL now stands for;never forget the live insult to the city of Detroits’ fan base!!!!!and team!!!!!!!
    Sincerly your…….FLABERGASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  166. By Ryan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Reverse this decision and credit the Lions with a win. It’s the only way the NFL can get away with this one. This call is even worse than the Seahawks vs Steelers superbowl calls. Those were some terrible calls! I hope next time Calvin Johnson makes a catch he holds on to it for the rest of the game.

  167. By Bob on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    So let me get this straight, if this would have happened in the field and not the end zone and one of the bears would have jumped on the ball I’m sure it would have been a fumble and not an incomplete pass. What a JOKE.

  168. By marcus on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    There was no question this was a touchdown and until the league gets it together im boycotting the NFL. Ill be watching no games, no schwag will be bought, anything i have with an NFL logo on it will be discarded. I love my Lions and will continue to do so, but in a league that makes calls like this just takes all the fun and enjoyment out of the game. Ive had to suffer for a long time being a Lions fan, but when the refs just give the game away I can no longer participate. Goodbye NFL and take all your funky ass rules and go jump I’m Lake Michigan in February. I’m done with the NFL

  169. By Dave on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    If this had been Chicago gettin hosed the refs would never have gotten out of the stadium alive…I thought I knew football but maybe I’ll have to get a rule book for road games

  170. By MIke on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    If you think about this, what makes it even worse was the fact that the official on the scene called it a touchdown BEFORE Calvin let go of the ball. If this had been any other play, when the whistle blows the play is over regardless of what happens after the whistle blows. In this case the ref signaled the play was over (by raising his hands indicating a touchdown) and Calvin lets go of the ball and suddenly that fact (which occurs AFTER the official made his indication thus ending the play,) now negates the touchdown? This call was an outragious tragedy which would not have happened if this had been the Colts, Vikings, etc. They would not dare make a call like that against Manning or Farve. Think I am wrong”? Then review the Seahawks Mike Williams touchdown that happened today!! The NFL ought to be ashamed of themselves as this is clear bias against Detroit in my opinion.

  171. By Preston on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Look me up mr ford…and after the fact bail me out too plz

  172. By matt on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    that ref should not be allowed to referee in the CFL. Worst call in the history of the league

  173. By cags on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    wow. I’m a bears fan and I think that call sucked. sorry guys. I don’t feel good about that win. you deserved it.

  174. By Bill on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I’m a Halas Chicago Bears fan (there is a difference). You guys won the game…one of the worse calls I have ever seen in the nfl.

  175. By john ollerich on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    As a lions fan of course i’m going to be bias concerning any questionable call against my team just as any other fan, but can this call even be considered questionable? I think it was obviously a catch with possession in the end zone for a touch down and looking at the numerous statements before me i’m not the only one. The lions didn’t play well in the 2nd half on offense but the defense held up when it had to and in my opinion played with more heart than any team wearing a lions jersey has in many years. I have to say i am proud of my team today for winning that game no matter what the score said at the end. I’m also proud of all the support the team is receiving from the fans, it’s much deserved and its about time.

    Nice catch Calvin….because it was a catch.

  176. By cags on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    just posted a comment and I said I think the call su—–. I guess I should have said stunk. I’m a bears fan and think that call was pathetic. We owe you guys one.

  177. By Lionfan20 on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Detroit was robbed of a victory today. Complete BS!!!!!!

  178. By DTL on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I am a bears fan and always will be – I must say tho I feel bad that you guys got robbed on that call! It was a touchdown all the way. I feel that the bears got a major break on this and the win should go to the Lions. Hate to say that but I don’t like winning ugly or cheating another team. Good luck to the Lions and a bad call for you guys. I can just imagine how I would feel if that was against the bears. Unreal


  179. By Gene ( not the Ref ) on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    So tell me, when did a catch in the endzone with both feet down, left butt on ground and left hand on ground with total and complete control of the football become an incomplete pass? Oh, I forget…we are talking about the Lions. If it were Jerry Rice or any other teams WR it would have been a touchdown with or without a review. But not the Lions…they are supose to lose. Can’t have the Lions win a road game against Chicago, that would go against the natural order of the NFL ( Not For Lions ). And when did Jim Joyce start refereeing Lions games? I felt the same jubilation then total disapointment and discuss as I did the night someome broke into my house and stoled from me Galaraga’s perfect game. Way to go Jim… Thanks to that offical Gene Steratore now synonymous with Detroit sports and blown calls. I guess we will see him on TV next crying and appolgizing to CJ for have blown what was probably the best catch for a game winning TD in Lions history. Way to go Gene…Cant wait
    untill next weeks call.

  180. By Greg on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Ok…. This is another way the NFL stays top of mind in the eyes of the consumers… Dear, NFL
    T his rule needs to be changed back… It turns in to a judgment call which is the last thing you want your refs to make. Control of the ball and two feet in is quite simple to reply and make a solid judgment.

  181. By Dean Neff on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    You know damn well if that was a Payton Manning to Reggie Wayne or a Drew Breeze TD Pass you the refs would have given him that touchdown. Seeing how it was Detroit and a nobody QB that only we know you decided to screw us. Just because we have lost a ton of games over the last few years does mean we want you screwing us out if more. Our team played it’s ass off for just 1 win 1 and you screwed us just because we are Detroit. Your wrong and you know it.

  182. By So.. on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    So answer me this question, in all seriousness, if that wasn’t a catch what exactly would Calvin had to of done to have it ruled as a touchdown?

  183. By Edward on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Excellent call. As a Bears fan, I’m glad the rule was enforced in a fair manner. If only Calvin Johnson had possession of the ball…..

  184. By Jim Beckman on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    This goes out to the Bears fan who agreeed that the Lions got screwed…Thank you… I know that we have our own teams and such but thanks.

  185. By 1Blessed4all on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Calvin Johnson made a great catch for a touchdown in the closing seconds of the fourth quarter, in the first game of the 2010 season, against the Chicago bears. The officials really got it wrong this time, and I was a Chicago fan! Doesn’t control of the ball, breaking the plane of the end zone, being down by contact, when a defender touches, (and following) a major body part (your but) touches the ground, still count as a TOUCHDOWN! Oh no, the ball was left in the end zone after the play.

  186. By Jeff from Bolingbrook on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Bear fan here … It was a catch. Detroit earned the W here (unless a Bear would have run the following kickoff for a TD … LOL). Don’t blame Chicago or the Bears guys, blame the horrible rule. I certainly hope they fix (or get rid of) this rule for next season. Every team is going to get burned by this rule sooner or later. Sorry guys, if I could give you the W, I would.

  187. By Troutman on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    NFL, how do I explain to my 10-year old son that Johnson caught the ball, landed on his backside, showed the ball to the ref holding it in 1 hand showing that he has contol of the ball. But yet by some obsure rule he did not make the catch????? Not a TD??????

    If a 10 year old can see it was a TD why can’t the NFL????

    He had control of the ball and was past the goal line. TD Period !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You lost all credibility today. I am done with the NFL.

  188. By Buffalo Bills Fan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    In odd situations like this I can usually see through the referee’s ruling and base it on ‘intent.” In this case I see no intent of having such a ridiculous rule.

    a) Player has possession
    b) Player is across plane of goal line
    c) Player lands on ground with possession of ball
    d) Ground can’t cause a fumble?
    e) Play should have ended as soon as player with possession of ball landed on ground

    From Buffalo: Welcome to our world Lions’ fans

  189. By D-Rock on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply


  190. By andyfromiowa on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    The process was over when he his knee hit the ground. He was “down” and
    it was a catch. This needs to be overturned by the NFL, with the Bears
    getting the appropriate remaining seconds to try and win. If the NFL does
    not do anything on this, it will lose credibility.

  191. By Dustin on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Terrible rule and call! If this was the Colts, Patriots or other perennial winners this is a TD, no question, no review. The NFL DOES NOT want the lions to win. Detroit is not a ratings darling for the league, its sad to see what Roger Goddell is turning the league into. Fixed games, just like the NBA. Were the Lions outplayed today? Absolutely. But to have their efforts squashed at the end like this is ridiculous. NFL = Not Fair League. Unless you are a media darling you dont stand a chance. You dont have to be a genius to see whats really going on. Yes I’m a Lions fan but I am also a fan of the game and as far as I am concerned the NFL is putting out a terrible product. Until that changes look for attendance to keep falling. I wont pay that rediculous money for a ticket, to see anybody!

  192. By tp on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    All I can say is WOW! I have read most of the post on here and not only Lions fans but football fans agree that this was a horrible call. It is clear that BIG MONEY was on the line here and like they say in Vegas, “The house always wins.” For the NFL to have the guts to stand by this horrible call just shows how they don’t care. I show more love and respect for the umpire that blew the Perfect game for the Tigers then I would ever show for the Cowardly NFL. Own up to your call, there is NO camera angle that would suggest that Megatron did not make a Phenomenal catch. NFL, I will no longer support you, no more live games, and no more Sunday Ticket, Why should I, Just to see you take it away.

  193. By Tim on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I have had enough of this. I have been a Lions fan for 50 years and have never seen a championship or anything close. It seems that even when they should winthe the NFL conspires to keep them down with some obscure rule. I am glad there is college football or this sport would be lost. Hey, NFL, you like to make rules so much, why not controll your agents and kep them from giving payola to college prospects and screwing up college football too.

  194. By john gross on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    my attendance at nfl games stops,right now! the game is crooked as hell! I for one refuse to believe anyone with a brain would call that an incompletion. the ref’s stuck it to the lions. the no fail league —-has seen my last dollar! i don’t support crooks.

  195. By Ellen on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    First I will start out by saying……. Why do the referee’s wear stripes? Because they are robbers! This was a fair catch, but because so many people had bet Chicago to win this game in Vegas it was bought out! Everything about the catch was a TD even one of the referee’s ruled it a TD by throwing his hands up in the TD motion. This call has ruined football for me and the NFL should be ashamed! No one (on TV) will say what they really think………that Gene Steratore was bought out and expected the Lion’s to lose so on this amazing play he had to rule against the Lion’s to get his bonus check! The Lion’s got robbed by the behing bars referee’s plain and simple! If this is the rule then why a few hundred miles away was this not enforced?

  196. By piewagon on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I am a Bears fan all the way but I love the game too. Statistically the Bears won in all departments but we didn’t win the game. The ref’s cheated you and we don’t want to win that way. Sorry – Lion’s fans. We owe you one game. Your team beat us today regardless of what the ref said.

  197. By coloradolionsfan on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Well…..at the end of the day we love our Lions. This just enforced my ever continuing support for them. we need to get back to work and get ready to play philly. Heads up Lions Nation!!!!! We will fight on!!!!

  198. By Dave on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    It was a catch, there should have been a whistle to signal the end of the play. How may times do we see a play stop when the goal line is crossed.

  199. By Steve on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    I’m going to watch Detroit basketball and hockey games very closely this year. Its only a matter of time before the refs screw the Pistons or Red Wings out of a win too. First the Tigers and now the Lions…….IN THE SAME YEAR!!! Jim Joyce’s bad call on Galaraga’s perfect game would have been reversed the same night by the comissioner if Galaraga played for the Yankees and the NFL would have reversed this travesty against Calvin Johnson if he played for the Patriots, Colts or “America’s Team”. the Cowboys!!!

  200. By Rand Gearld DesRosiers on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply


  201. By greg hysell on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Lions got robbed all there is to it! you cant take a great play like that away from a reciever of calvins calibur! great pass, great catch, BAD CALL!! Lions did indeed deserve that victory! we know who the better team is though!

  202. By Eric on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    ITts like u see somethin an they tell u it didnt happen..that was a win..hopefully are guys will not affect us the rest of the season..are d looked like they had been playing 2gether for 10 years..poor Calvin thats some bs!

  203. By Aaron on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    So Johnson is a few more yards to the right and barely in bounds.. he jumps and catches the ball.. lands with both feet down in bounds… it’s NOT a touchdown if he proceeds to fall on his ass out of bounds, rolls over, and hits the ball on the ground after CLEARLY maintaining control during the entire ‘process’? What!?!?

    This rule is flawed.. The NFL needs to throw it out. If this had been Reggie Wayne catching a game-winning touchdown pass from Peyton Manning in the Super Bowl the public would be absolutely outraged. Makes me sick to my stomach!

    There’s not ONE fan in Chicago that would have thought the touchdown wasn’t legit. Are you kidding me? There would have been no controversy. THAT is why this rule makes no sense. BECAUSE IT MAKES NO SENSE!

    The worst call I’ve witnessed in the past 17 years of watching Lions football.

  204. By Ryan on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    This summer it was Galaragga of the Tigers getting cheated out of a no-hitter. Today it was the the Incomplete Pass that Wasn’t. Detroit has been on the bad end of a couple very significant calls recently!!

  205. By Gary on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Shwartz and Calvin are just being quiet to Satisfy the Gulag NFL, they both know it was a catch, as do a vast majority of TV commentators and football across the country.
    The LIons were robbed, The NFL wants us to give up the Thanksgiving Day games and we won’t budge because we took it when no one else would.
    The NFL is blacklisting the Lions.
    The league as a whole is becoming a joke!

  206. By Blued on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    PURE BS!

    Screw the NFL and it’s ridicules rules, just let’m play football for God’s sake.

    This game isn’t even fun to watch anymore because the refs decide far too many plays AND games.

    …and if the poor Lions need anymore help losing!!!! WTF NFL?

  207. By Keith Andrews on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    This call of an incomplete pass is totally WRONG! The referee signaled touchdown,Johnson fell down after that,THAT IS A COMPLETE PASS PERIOD.The officials calling this game BLEW THIS CALL. END OF STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

  208. By Craig on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I’m not a Lions fan but I am angry with this call…it is obvious that this player caught the ball and was down when he made contact with the ground…the play should be dead at that point…not when he is getting back up…pathetic…again…not a Lions fan…but the league owe’s the reciever, coach, team and fans an apology.
    When the game loses all sense of reality to become legalistic and theoretical…it is a sad day for the game.

  209. By Guy on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    So what constitutes the end of the reception process? If it is not when Calvin Johnson had the ball firmly in his grip and both feet on the ground, then is it not when he had a knee on the ground and was firmly holding the ball with his right hand and displaying it to the referee? Or is it when Calvin Johnson’s butt was on the ground after that? Must he sit on the ground in the end zone until long after the game is over for it to be regarded a touchdown?
    My oppinion is the reception process ended at least by the time Calvin’s butt was on the ground. The ball came out of his hand during what I will term ‘the getting up off the ground process’, which followed reasonably after the ‘reception process’.
    I think the rule is fair and clear enough to a point. I just don’t understand how long they expect someone to keep holding onto the ball after a clear reception.
    Let’s say he caught the ball flat-footed in the endzone with no defenders around him and stood for a full second, then tripped on his shoelace while heading toward the referee to hand him the ball and dropped the ball while hitting the ground; would that also be an incompletion?
    If the reception process did not end after having both his feet on the ground with a firm grasp of the football, then how many hours must he spend standing, kneeling or sitting in the endzone holding the football for it to count?
    A missuse of the rule like this has the ability to drive an NFL fan away. Especially a victory-starved Lion fan.

  210. By Mark Patterson on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Steretore and the replay booth should all be looking for new jobs after the debacle call they made today. I watched that catch all day long and I still dont understand why it wasnt 6 points. We need consitancy in the way games are called. You Refs should be ashamed of yourselves. The Commish should fire all of you that were responsible for that game.

  211. By terry on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    you bet

  212. By terry on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    the only thing i dont understand about this rule is that when i was watching the game highlights i saw one guy tackled as he was crossing the plain and as he was “falling down” the ball came out the same way calvins did,yet it was a touchdown. then i saw another play where a guy was diving across the plain,with no one near him and when he “hit the ground” the ball came out just like calvins. these were both T.D.s. if your falling to the ground and must hold possesion unttill the motion stops then why did these guys get t.d.s what a kick in the head to lose matt. Weve been waiting to long for something like this to happen!

  213. By Jim on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Personally i think this ref should be fired. For the amount of money these guys get paid they should be able to do their job right. Kinda reminds me of the Marcus Pollard non touchdown pass against Tampa Bay years ago, or even the Galaraga no hitter that was robbed. Kinda odd, oh well at least they let the red wings win once in a while.

  214. By Jack on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    That was absolutely unbelievable.

    When you run into the end zone, you break the plane, you can chuck it into the stands (used to be popular, until the fine), you can have your hands fall off: it’s still a touchdown.

    Possession, two feet (and backside) in: touchdown. Period. Rule needs to go out right now.

  215. By terry on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    everybody relax, i just figured out why the fine people ruining, i mean running the nfl came up with this rule- the end zone is a very dangerous area on the field due to the fact that anyone will go after the ball regardless of whats coming at them so now that we have this new rule calvin should have pulled the ball in and not have stuck his hand out there to break and guide the fall. he should have taken that trama to the shoulder like stafford had shown him in the first half. now the game will b more exciting for the fans when they start betting on how long there favorite player can go without getting sidelined with injurys!

  216. By acgalicia on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Bad judgment call. CJ had the ball under control until he was in the act of getting up to celebrate. If getting up from the ground is part of the entire process of a catch then the rule is terrible. The side judge should have stuck with what he saw which was a TD and not be over ruled by another referee who was nowhere close to the play. I think if the call on the field was a TD then it would call a TD by the replay review.

    Anyways, Tigers gave Galaraga a corvette. Maybe Ford will give CJ a Mustang. Doubt it.

  217. By Danny on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    It WAS a catch. I don’t even understand where the dispute is coming from! It was a catch if I have ever seen a catch before.

  218. By dave b on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    pat’s’, packers, vickings,saints,cowboys,jets,so on and so fort TD well it’s only the lions let’s dish’em nice going ref’s CJ TOUCHDOWN LOINS 21 bears 19

  219. By Mike on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    The ground cannot cause a fumble. He had possession of the ball and control, UNTIL IT (the ball)HIT THE GROUND! That was a “Touchdown”, by any measure!!!!
    What is it with the professional sports referees and Detroit tams. First there is a perfect game taken away, and now a touchdown that is not a touchdown? I wonder????

  220. By terry on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    seriously, i think anyone with any sense knows that calvins “td” was taken away because people upstairs panicked. Calvin wasnt loseing the ball, he was putting it down. thats an unarguable fact simply because of the fact that he wasnt bobbleing the ball at any time. he had the choice of releasing the ball or taking it with him the entire time. this rule was implented to stop a t.d. from occuring when a player doesnt have controll. at the very least if the rule makers would have argued that he never had possesion then i would at least feel comfortable that they knew what the rule was designed to do. the only one that dropped the ball in chicago were the boys up stairs.I hope the announcers this week are thinking the same way i am and confront the rule makers because i would love to hear that x planation! hey Calvin! im the only lions fan i know of here in bears/packers country. How about a signed hoody for all the crap ive had to take for the millen years. Go lions!

  221. By TorinoGo on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Bad rule , GREAT CATCH CALVIN ! Crap call .

  222. By TorinoGo on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Lions looked bad , I was expecting more from the offense and much more pressure on the QB ,still won the game with that catch .

  223. By Tom on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Don’t know if someone already said this or not as there are a ton of comments but I feel the refs “made up” for the bad call on detroits TD that was reviewed. the ball never crossed the plain of the endzone and for the life of me can not figure out how they could blow that call! I am a die hard Lions fan and loved it but it was a bad call. They knew it was a bad call which is why they took CJ’s TD away! The biggest reason I feel this way is because it was so “nit-picky”. It’s like they were looking for any excuse to “make up” for there previous blown call. Detroit is an improved unit with many improvements still required. They don’t need any help from the officials to lose a game. Very disappointing loss but feel they are moving in the right direction, and having watched them play for nearly 45 years thats saying something! Futility has been the norm even in the Barry Sanders era. Incompetence from the owner to gms to coaches! This is honestly the first time that I feel good about the Lions and there gm and coaches. As far as the owner goes, hey even an idiot can get lucky sometimes! Go Lions!!

  224. By TGLP on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply


  225. By Danby on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    A bad rule, stupidly used.. Calvin Johnson never lost possession. The Lions won that game. It wasn’t always pretty but they won it.

  226. By squid123 on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    If you notice his left hand is out of bounds and he still has possesion of the ball. Play over “TOUCHDOWN”. WORST CALL IN NFL HISTORY!!!!!!!!! YES NFL-NEVER FOR the LIONS

  227. By DAVE on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I am a season ticket holder and a great football fan. If that wasn’t a catch, I must not know football. Look if thats the rule which I think is out of context for this situation, then there needs to be a common sense or Jim Joyce rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  228. By Tim on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I know what they are trying do with this rule, but just another example of the NFL NO FUN LEAGUE Where did the name TouchDown come from. He touched that ball down, if ever there was a touchdown. from a Viking fan

  229. By F Woods on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Am I the 0nly one who noticed the penalty that wasn’t called on Chicago durring this play?
    The Bears had too many men on the field for the entire play!
    Oh. Wait….
    Those were the officials!
    My mistake!
    What an absolutly rediculous call!
    It’s not like we can afford a loss like this!

  230. By Dave on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    He was Galarraga’ed!!!!

  231. By Wes on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    That was a load of crap. Amazing pass, blocking and amazing catch Lions! Everyone did their part when it mattered most when it did not seem likely to come back. Can’t wait until next week and not get screwed over this time. GO LIONS!

  232. By Roy on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    It appears they still mis-interpreted the rule. I understand if it’s a bobbled catch, you have to regain control, but it wasnt bobbled. He hit the ground in bounds five times with possession, (left foot, right foot, butt, knee, hand) and maintained control throughout the entire process. It was a catch, a touchdown, and a win for the Lions.

  233. By MMILL on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I am a lifelong Bear fan in the Chicago area. How embarrassing a “win” for us. As far as I’m concern, the Lions won that game and we lost. My heart goes out to all fans who were offended by this travesty. This has to be the worst call in sports since the Don Denkinger fiasco.

  234. By Fred on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I agree that coming all the way to the ground with possession should be a touchdown. Regardless of the bad call they allowed Calvin to be hit early on the next throw and not throw a pass interference flag. Two bad calls in a row to ruin the season opener was ridiculous

  235. By LArry V. on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    The NFL may think they got this right, but the fact is they lost their integrity in the eyes of the fans, all of whom saw the play as a TD. When will common sense trump a stupid rule?

  236. By Big E on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Somebody made lots of money on the call! You mean to tell me in all these years one basketball referee is the only person to ever help the spread and get caught. Looks pretty fishy to me. That whole set of officials should be investigated. First Galaraga and now this. What’s the use of all the technology if you aren’t making the correct call! There was one referee right there that called it a touchdown. Like many people have said. We are owed an apology! The NFL should be fined for that call! When are these leagues going to be held accountable for their mistakes! IT IS JUST PLAIN WRONG!

  237. By Lisa on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a referee go that deep to overturn a game-changing play.
    Anywhere else on the field, the catch would be ruled COMPLETE as soon as the player hits the ground with the ball in hand. If a knee is down before the fumble the catch counts! If players can get a touchdown just by crossing the plane (and not even landing in-bounds) then CJ was robbed, and millions of TV viewers know it.

  238. By Kevin from Chicago on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Very sorry Lions fans. Obviously, I’m a Bears fan, but you guys got screwed royally. Anybody watching it knows that the receiver had complete control and it was a catch. This rule needs some big time modification. I still can’t believe it was ruled not a touchdown.

  239. By Joe on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    The fact is it was not a catch. Quit whining. To avoid this in the future I would suggest he just keep possession of the football. The rule may be flawed or may not, but by definition and interpretation it is and was not a catch. That single play did not cost the lions the game. The lions allowing chicago to score 5 times cost them the game. Heck why not just take away a couple field goals, or a touchdown. Although detroit played very well, at the end of the day they didn’t get the job done!

  240. By Shawn on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Great play Calvin, Myself and im sure i speak for all the other detroit fans out there, we know that was a catch and a great one at that. Great game guys. The defense also did a great job. Lets get ready for the Eagles.

  241. By Eric on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    This is just another call that proves that detroit sports get NO respect. If it would’ve happened to anyone of the other teams in the league, it would have been a touchdown for sure. He clearly had possesion, he held it in one hand and fell to the ground, turned around to get up left the ball on the ground using it to get up. words can’t explain the disbelief. then to have broadcasters and other NFL people say that it was the right call is complete horsecrap

  242. By mick on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    How can anyone say that this was the correct interpretation of the rule. I don’t see where the rule states continuation. It says if he loses control of the ball and the ball touches the ground before he maintains controll the pass is incomplete. The NFL is not talking about Calvin losing control their talking about Calvin controlling the ball. If he regains control( which he never lost)prior to the ball touching the ground the pass is complete. Johnson had control of the ball. Don’t tell me the refs got it right! Tell me where does it talk about continuation in the rules? The word continuation is someones subjective interpretation of the rule!!!!!

  243. By Dman on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Ok, I never comment on these things but I have too. I was at that game and I am a lions fan and was supporting with a jersey. Usually all you do is get razzed by the bears faithful. You would not believe the amount of Bears fans that were showing remorse to me the lions fan. Saying “sorry dude, you got robbed” that was a catch. It felt good to hear that from them but at the same time it didn’t make up for it. He caught that ball with two hands. Firmly gripping the ball, both feet hit, then a knee along with defender contact, then he falls to his ass and his left hand hits too, possibly even out of bounds (hand). The fricken ref staring right at the play calls a TD as he should have (that ref should get a raise). Calvin is rolling over to celebrate and the ball was either dropped or the ground popped it out but either way that doesn’t matter. ITS A FRICKEN TD! Everyone knows it…Fans, announcers, even NFL network analyists. Every one but the refs and the NFL I guess. The NFL and its officiating should be completely embarrassed of the ruling and should appologize to the Lions organization and fess up to thier mistake. NFL refs have always sucked. It gets worse every year. Oh, one more thing. play continues and we (lions) get another shot at the endzone and on the very next play manning has his left arm drapped around johnson before the ball even gets there. (confirmed on my DVR while in slow motion) Last I checked that was pass interference. Another blown call. Was this game fixed? whatever. NFL.. U SUCK and so do your REFS! You should send your refs to the NHL for training… they rarely make mistakes.

  244. By RAy Trueblood on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I watched that whole game including that blown call. Nobody can convence me that was the right call. They are worried about a strike this will probably bring it on. what would it hurt the teams are getting taken advantage of anyway.

  245. By Rick Simmons on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    What a joke, the refs were paid off! Just admint it refs, your all crooks! What fool would agree w/ the refs? Politics, gettin paid off, crooks. BAN THE NFL,,, ALL CORRUPT, JUST LIKE OR GOVERNMENT

  246. By Paul on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    If he has to finish the “process” of the catch, he did. It was two separate processes. The first one is when he caught the ball, two feet down and his back end. The second one is when he started to roll over to get up and used the ball to get him back on his feet. During the second process is when the ball slipped out of his fingers. Everyone knows that it was a win for the Lions and everyone knows that Armando Galarraga had a no hitter!

  247. By Rick Simmons on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply


  248. By Larry on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Huge kudos for Calvin’s amazing catch of a outstanding thow by Hill!!! WOW! Clearly a TD, no question. PERIOD. This ruling needs to be challenged. Stay classy Calvin.

  249. By 2 Sweet Pete on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    THIS WAS A COMPLETED PASS!! The Lions got screwed royally for $$$$. It is the only correct call here…how could it be anything else. “Someone/somebodies” must have had a lifetimes worth on this & just “had” to call the favor in. Even if your not a Lions fan….YOU can blatantly see a truly awesome completed pass/catch….except of course the officials & the NFL.

  250. By paul johnson on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply




  251. By Greg Robinette on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    If it had been Wes Welker or Randy Moss from NE, it’s six, you can bank on it. Bad teams don’t get calls, that’s a fact, look how many times over the last few years the Lions have gotten smacked upside the head by poor officiating. I can think of three times off the top of my head that cost us the game. Joey Harrington TD pass in endzone against TB, Pass Int. against Vikings on 4th down that gives us the ball and we kneel on it and win, and yesterday. I bet if the lions organization or someone with access to tape could review all the calls that have been made during the last 5-7 years it would be mind blowing.

  252. By Ken on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Why would anyone want to buy tickets to watch the Lions when the officals won’t let them win even when it’s fair and square? That was a BS call and everyone knows it!!!!

    If it would have been anyone but Detroit it would have been a TD.

  253. By Manny Martinez on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I totally agree bogus rule, I’m a Bears fan & totally agree. The same rule costs us a game a few years back so I feel for all of you loyal fans. But that rule has been in place for 7 years. The facts are that game should have never been that close to begin with we dominated every aspect of the game including turnovers lol so quit your whinning neither team is Super Bowl bound, lets be real. Bosch & Suh are monsters, good luck to yall this season I hope Matt is okay and healthy for our next meeting.

  254. By abnerman on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Ridiculous. Now it’s a matter of “trust our interpretation of the rule, not your own eyes”, and it’s absolutely ridiculous. Even if you want to say it was a correct call based on the rule, that is negated when considering how utterly foolish the rule is (and the amount of subjective liberties the officials are allowed to take with such a rule).

    The worst thing about this faulty, oddly judgmental rule, is that it’s hardly ever enforced the way this particular play was. Why? Because even in the world of NFL officiating, no-brainer common sense should (and sometimes does, believe it or not,) win out over a completely speculative call based on a wishy-washy rule.
    If you wanted to cite this rule, you could pick out and negate a good handful of TD’s from this past Sunday or any football week in history or future.

    Unfortunately for them, this happened to the Lions so it will fade into obscurity before day’s end. If this were the high profile Patriots, the success story Saints, or had Brett Favre thrown the TD pass rather than Shaun Hill, this would continue to be a pressing issue until the league apologized to the team and the fans for the abuse of this rule and the fact that it directly affected the outcome of this game.

    I’ll be sending responsible and civil emails about this situation to every relevant league address that I can find, and I suggest that you do the same.

  255. By BILLO313 on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    if anybody thinks that this is an incomplete pass they need to be slapped. they have no business officiating the sport if they cant even tell the obvious. any and everyone that is an nfl fan would agree. that was a touchdown. he slammed it down on his way to his feet to celebrate. now i wish he woulda just chucked it in the refs face!!! had this of been any other team, it woulda been a TD. the Lions just dont get any respect. we deserve the W hands down.

  256. By Don on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    It was a catch and a touchdown and we won the game.
    Coach, You say we had plenty of oppertunity to win before that. True.
    And so did the BEARS. That was a Even game,no matter how the Team performed the rest of the game. The Game was What it was.
    The Ruling is an out and out LIE!
    We have seen this kind of ruling for over 50 years now!
    It Happens to this TEAM EVERY YEAR! A contrivertial call.
    and at the end of the Call the LIONS ALLWAYS LOSE!
    THE BEARS LOST THE GAME and we won!
    Calvin caught the Ball and scored the touchdown.
    And we won the Game! And the Cheating NFL stole it from us!
    And if they wont change it and give us the win on that game then this is all a Farce.
    And Maybe the Players Should just give it up!
    Because you can’t beat the system, and the system want’s the LIONS to be the LOSERS!
    HOW are you going to get people to bye tickets, when you can’t even stand up to the NFL? Bye the tickets yourselves! Who wants to watch fixed games.
    And that was fixed. They Made sure that the LIONS LOST that game.
    They were’nt sending the Players a Message, they sent the LIONS Fans a message. And the Message is that we arent going to win NO Matter what!
    This League is dirty, they Make up the Rules as they go along!
    Everyone has seen that Game before.
    And that Play! One of the other TEAMS had the Same exact play. And the ruling went the other way. It was because it DOES Matter who is making the play. And if it is the LIONS. Then the rule will be used, with any other TEAM then there never was a rule.
    This League, the refs, the Organization does whatever it wants and noone can do anything about it!
    And this TEAM these Players, on this TEAM should’nt even suit up anymore.
    It is a JOKE the whole thing. And we are the BUTT of the JOKE!
    And the League is Bound to Keep it that way.
    You think it was just one play in a game. You havent been here Long enough.
    This is only the second time that it has happened to you.
    Remember you explaining away a bad call last year too!
    WE have watched Hundreds if not thousands of these Calls year after year after year.
    Yes, We should have just blown the bears out. But, That’s not the way the game went, I wonder why?
    You know what it does’nt matter anymore, because the FANS have had it.
    It is over.
    I want to watch Football! REAL FOOTBALL!
    Not the version of BIG TIME NFL!
    WE WON!
    The Chicago BEARS ARE LOSERS!

  257. By Don on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Oh,and there is’nt a Fan anywhere that want’s to hear that B.S, explanation about the Call! WE all KNOW What Happened. and we have seen it and heard it a million times before.
    We do not want to hear the League’s LIES! They do what they want.And that is that. Thanx for trying to explain it BUT NO THANX!

  258. By Mike on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I’m still in shock, you cannot tell me Roger Goodell didn’t have his hand in the mix with that call. The NFL has its favorite teams and will do anything to make sure those teams win, and those other teams know this and thats why Jim and Calvin are silent.Great catch Calvin we should be 1-0 but Roger Goodell says NO!!!!! The rules committee does what Roger Goodell wants them to do, he decides, would not suprize me one bit Ole Roger makes every replay call to fit his agenda for HIS NFL. This is wrong Roger and you know it is, time to make this a fair league again. Be a man for once Roger overturn this B.S. call continue this game with 24 seconds left, let us try our extra point and kick off to the bears and see what happens, like we should have seen on Sunday.

  259. By jalen brightwell on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    its good we gone win r next 5 games no worries.

  260. By jalen brightwell on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    we still need dre bly cus wade anit doing nothin real talk.

  261. By robert on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    This is why sports is starting to get a very bad name, I watched the catch, so did everyone else. Ref was right there, signaled a touchdown, yet someone upstairs over ruled, Now, can anyone confirm that who ever over ruled the call didnt have a lot of money bet on Chicago?? It happened in basketball, never did really find out who was involved with the ref. Happened in baseball, now its happening in football. Who controls the decision makers upstairs??
    If i was the Detroit organization I would go to no end to have whom ever fired and investigated

  262. By mark on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Most BS call ever. He had total possession. He dropped it after it hit the ground in his hand. Jim Joyce’s outcome was worse but this call is 1000% worse. So blatantly a catch

  263. By Dave on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    The entire process arguement is just what the Refs are standing behind. There is no hiding the fact that when CJ rolled over and placed the ball on the ground, it was actually a second act AFTER making the catch. The catch was complete when both his feet, his hip hit the ground and his left hand went out of bounds. I hate to say it, but if it was any other team than the Lions, the call would have went the other way. The NFL owes a debt to the Lions organization; however, nothing will compensate for the W that was taken from them by ignorant or crooked refs.

  264. By Steve on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    My suggestion to Calvin Johnson is the next time he catches a ball in the end zone, don’t release or hand the ball to an official until they verbally confirm it is a good catch, and then take the ball to the sideline and go under the hood to confirm that it is a catch.
    Continuation what a bunch of crap the catch was made two feet on the ground, he then transferred the ball to one hand to keep it from being knocked away by the defender. While getting up he then released the ball. Shame on you NFL rules committee for your tacky interpretation of the rule. If this is the case then every player that has ever extended the ball over, broke the plain of the end zone and lost possession of the ball prior to going down, the ruling would be a fumble. Or if the ball rolls out of bounds a touch back.
    My question for coach Schwartz on the game: It seemed that the passing game turned into a lot of dump offs, why didn’t the offense look do a little play action and throw a few long balls to loosen up the bears defense? It seems that this might have freed up the running game a little also?

  265. By Steve on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    This is for the lions coaching staff:
    By the continuation rule in determining a catch, this means that any player that makes a catch and immediately gets up and flips or spins the ball out of their hands , it should be challenged as a catch and by ruling should ruled as an incomplete pass.

  266. By Todd on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Bottom line – if that were Peyton Manning or Drew Brees making that throw, it would have been ruled a touchdown, but because it’s Hill and the Detroit Lions, oh well. . .

    That was a catch, period. No amount of mental gymnastics changes the essential quality of catching a football. He had the football in his hands and rolls over to get up – it’s kind of hard to get up from your back and easier from your knees. He puts the ball to the ground as he begins to celebrate his touchdown.

    “Touchdown.” Used to be putting the football to the ground was the essence of a “touch down.” Now it’s used to substantiate a ridiculous call.

    The NFL looks silly and the Lions get screwed yet again.

  267. By Cziggy on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    The part that confuses me the most is how can a guy that catches the game in the air, touch both tows in the end zones before falling out of bounds be considered a “catch”, but when a guy lands on both feet, bum & hand, not?

    The spiking comments are also correct. Lets let these guys play football

  268. By Rand Gearld DesRosiers on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    IF that play was not complete after he clearly caught the ball with 2 hands, came down transfering the ball to one hand pointing it towards the official, then losing some balance , as in slow motion looked like he placed the ball on the ground at the back of the end zone. this looked normal after the complete replay! what would they have said if he instead of pointing the ball with the one hand at the ref, but just flipping the ball to him. this crap about totaly completing the play, makes sense like when we were kids playing tag. NO TAGS BACK!! THAT OFFICIAL THEY HAD ON TV AFTER THE PLAY, HIS OPIONION WAS HILLARIUS. HE REALY SOUNDED LIKE A MOMO. ID BE IMBARRESED ON NATIONAL TV CHANGE YOUR REDICULOUS RULE!

  269. By Bill on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    What a terrible call. Good luck to the receivers who are soon to be piled up on when catching a ball in the enzone. As long as the player is moving, it is part of the catch. Roll him around like a greased pig until the safety can pry the ball out of his hands. I am not a Lions fan but am disgusted by this call. An apology is a must!!

  270. By samuel on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    lions’ fan i feel for y’all the game was the biggest bs call in the history of No Fun League im a giants fan even though they won im pissed off i want to throw the nfl rule book in the garbage that rule has taken over the tuck rule as the absolute dumbest rule in the nfl what does he have to do hold the ball to next week

  271. By john handcock on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    The ref’s think there god out there and can do as they please. I hope one day this crap can stop!!! look at the tigers the umpires are allways against them it must just be a DETROIT THING!!!!!!!!!

  272. By Thorvald on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    That was a touchdown pass reception. What the booth review did later was steal it from the Lions. Somebody really important from Chicago must have had money on the Bears. I’m just sayin’, is all.
    Calls like this, thuggish players, petulant billionaire owners, and ridiculous prices at the stadium are eroding the joy of the fans. Unless and until the NFL reforms, it could happen that pro football shrinks to the level of team handball.

  273. By JoeS on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Everyone says it was a Lions win. There would have been 25 seconds left on the clock and the way the Bears moved the ball up and down the field doesn’t secure the win for the Lions.

  274. By Rob Peters Livonia on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I think the (recepiton) rule is a poor or even an atrocious rule. It should have not come into play, and I do not believe intelligent people would want it used in that circumstance. When you catch a ball, hit the ground with the ball in possession (one or two hands), sits on his rear end with the ball in his possession. the play should be dead and it’s a TD.
    I would challenge that rule by staying seated in the end zone with the ball and wait for the clock to run down so the opposition does not have enough time to get possession of the ball. That would be my “process”.
    The NFL needs to get off their high horse and start using some common sence.
    They are ruining a great game. Revise that rule or better yet, get rid of it.
    Really becoming the “No Fun League”

    Realy becoming the “No Fun League”

  275. By Rob Peters Livonia on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I understand what the coach is trying to instill in his organization and to the players. He is right, that one play did not cause the loss. They had two other chances, or could have played better in the 3rd quarter, or not allowed those points at the end of the 2nd quarter. But…. My perception was they overcame those mistakes by playing hard had a chance to win the game, and did actually make the play to win the game. A bad “rule” took it away from them, and most reasonable individuals would agree with that.
    I would expect Shwartz to show some passionate support for his team’s effort, risk a fine, and at least question the rule in public.

  276. By G. Jones on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    This is a C-O-N spiracy!!! Plain and simple. The NFL wants the Lions to be perennial doormats so that the old guard of Green Bay, Minnesota, and Chicago are always in contention for the NFC north title. They never intended for Jacsonville, and North Carolina, Tampa Bay, Houston, and The Raiders to be better. Just look at that “tuck rule” crap. They pulled that out to keep the Raiders out of the Super Bowl. I’m starting to think that this whole NFL thing is a minstrel show, just like the WWE.

  277. By TC on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    No one is gonna give you guys an apology so you can quit waiting for one.

  278. By Mark on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    The refs might as well suit up and play…the “process” of officiating has become a joke.

  279. By Kevin from Chicago on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    OMG!!! LIke I said, I hate the rule and the Lions got robbed because of it. This coming from a Bears fan. But reading all of this conspiracy BS crap is friggin nuts. Based on the wording of the STUPID rule, the correct call was made, plain and simple. The rule should be changed big time so something that is an obvious touchdown catch with definite possession does not get taken away again.
    I feel bad for the Lions and its fans, but knock it off with the conspiracy crap already it’s pathetic. IMO

  280. By Don on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I agree with everyone about being upset that Schwartz is going along with the NFL. “The Man has to stand up there on that podium and try to tell us that it was’nt a catch and that it was an enterception.
    Why? Because he is under control of the NFL.
    The NFL has taken away one of this counties greatest constitutional Rights.
    Or at least from the Players and coach’s in this country.
    That is how dirty this league is.
    If the Players or coach’s talk about the ruling on the field they will be fined, Or could be suspended indefinitely.
    Yes, That’s right My fellow Americans an institution in this country is SO Big and controling that it has Taken individuals rights completely away from them.
    And the coach’s and Players can’t say anything, do to the fact that they are affraid to come out and tell it like it REALLY is for fear of Losing everything that they have and, have worked for all these years.
    That’s what this League is doing and teaching our Children that this is an OK thing to do.
    I saw the frustration on Schwartz’s face. He can deney it if he want’s.
    But,we can all read your face. And the words that the NFL want you to say were comming out of your mouth but, that’s Not what you believe in your heart.
    The Same with Calvin, he did’nt even want to Look at the Camera.
    Well, I would say go LIONS or Maybe next week.
    But that would be rediculas to say or even think. Because we all know for sure now, that this League can stop us from winning or make sure that we win. Whatever This League wants to happen at any given notice.
    Wow, I really used to Love this sport.
    But, the business part has Ruined it!
    I hope that the players in this League will stand up to this league and change this Ruling and give us our Win back.
    Now if the Players want something to strike about, this SHOULD BE IT!
    Not how much money they want.
    I just Can’t believe How STUPID this League thinks we are?
    Really, this League actually Takes every person in this country and around the World for a FOOL!
    I think the NFL Fans should be more like Soccer Fans ( or Foootball) fans around the world.
    When they get bad Calls There People make them Pay for it Buy Roiting or such things. Now I’m not saying that we should riot at all. But, we should find a way to pay them back for the dirty Type of Calls that they make up along the way or just pull out at an opertune time.
    Maybe the Fans in this Country should just Boycott thewhole league?
    Hit them in the pocket book.
    and I mean all the Fans. Even those who have won.
    Look at the Saints. Yes, they won a Superbowl now, But, look at all the years that you guy’s were getting calls a lot like we got yesterday.
    If they are cheating us then they have cheated everyone of us at one time or another. I also remember when the Patroits couldn’t by a win. Now they have How many?
    What is the secret NE?
    Who do you have to make happy in order to reciave that Kind of treatment.

  281. By Kevin from Chicago on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply


    Give it all with the spamming of the same post over and over.

    Rejoice, you guys now signed Nathen Vasher. LOL

  282. By Bernie Cz. on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Also, I have not seen this mentioned before, but FORTE’S SECOND TD CATCH was improperly ruled a touchdown. Forte caught the ball and fell on his back in the end zone. When his feet rolled over to touch the ground, they both were out of bounds!!! THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN RULED AN INCOMPLETION, and should have generated an automatic booth review because it was in the last two minutes!!! Geez, I wonder why this Bears TD was not scrutenized and the Lions’ TD was….HUMMMMMM…..Is that the stench of a double standard I smell?????????

  283. By Casey on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I feel that this call was AWFUL! I understand what the rule says, but look at it from a running back point of view-if I get into the end zone with the ball and then drop it, it still counts. The rule should be uniform for all players. To me it looked like he put the ball down after making the catch. In my eyes, the lions are 1-0 and the bears are 0-1.

  284. By Matt D on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    first off, that was a great grab….but by definition it is not a touchdown..and that really sucks..dont say the refs were just pickin on the lions cause the penalty on peppers was pretty dumb too…..this is WEEK 1, there’s 15 more games for us to make up for it

  285. By Joseph Taylor on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    This is the NFL. None of the games are easy! An upset could happen at anytime. All these guys have being playing football since birth. The world best football players is going against the world best football players. So sometimes it comes down to the final minute regardless of mistakes and missed opportunities that both teams experience during the game. The referees make a strong impact of the game of football. I think Jim Schwartz should speak up for his players. As far for the catch, that rule does not apply. The rule states that if a player doesn’t have control of the ball before he hits the ground then it is not at catch. Calvin had control of the ball the entire play. Once his feet touched the ground the play was over. If he decides to fall afterward then so be it. Calvin had two feet, a knee and a forearm. A knee count as two feet. So he took four steps.I’m having a hard time interpreting this catch rule. So, I’m guessing if a player is falling to the ground with the ball , you can actually hit him while he is on the ground and make the ball come out. ALSO, Imagine if the ball was thrown to Calvin in the field of play near the sideline. Calvin jumps up,he catches the ball, he land on his FEET and a player knock him out of bounds, he then fall to his butt, his forearm hits he ground, then the ball comes out. They would have ruled this as a catch because he got two feet in. The whole thing is crazy. oh…… Kyle Vanden Bosh is my favorite defensive player in the NFL now. That guy is amazing. and of course Calvin is my favorite offensive player.

  286. By Derek on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    First off, whining about it after the game is over ain’t gonna change anything. If you want the rule to be changed, write a letter to the NFL commissioner.

    Now, to what I was gonna say. Yeah, you guys were “robbed.” The rule itself is fine, but the interpretation that the officials made was iffy. That could go either way. The rule was made so that receivers had to maintain possession of the ball if their bodies hit the ground or the ball was trying to be stripped by a defender. If the shock from hitting the ground popped the ball out of the receiver’s hands, even with the receiver having two feet inbounds that would be an incompletion. That is what this rule is trying to say. However, Johnson placed the ball down while he was getting up to celebrate. This happening in real time I can see why the officials would initially call it incomplete. However, the booth review should’ve seen the intent of what Johnson is trying to do, which was get up and celebrate. He caught the ball and held on to it until he placed it on the ground.

    As much as I like the 1-0 record, it really should be 0-1. Bears didn’t really deserve that win anyway. We did horrible and didn’t play well when it counted (4 failed attempts to get 1 yard?????).

  287. By Rick on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    I have been to Lion practices and from what I could tell Stanton shined brighter that Hill when given limited chances. Too bad he does not have the experience. He would certainly bring a different dimension to the game. Without him the Lions may have won only 1 game in the last 3 pre-seasons. I certainly hope tunnel vision is not part of our coaching staffs repertoire. Been watching the Lions since 1957 when I was a kid and lived a block awaty from Briggs Stadium. Stanton could be a big change of pace in games like last weeks when Stafford went out. Teams do not practice for different type QBs during the week. Anyway, it looks to me that perhaps Stafford and Stanton are injury prone. I supported Backus for a long time, but watched Peppers eat him alive last Sunday. Igt was his missed block that led to the Stafford injury.

  288. By Marc on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    Only in the NFL can a dedicated fan become completely overjoyed with an outstanding and truly awe inspiring play one moment and then taken over with complete and utter rage at the temerity and stupidity of NFL rules and referee’s. Calvin made an outstanding catch, nothing was out of bounds, and possession was retained. Plain and simple – that was a touchdown and WE WON!!!

    I agree, the NFL owes the Detroit Lions and their fans around the world an apology. Something was definitely fishy about that call and the booth review.

    Matt, I hope your injury was negligible and you are ready for the home opener – stay safe and healthy please!

    Lion’s die hard fan since 1971.

  289. By J Rosenberger on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    Many comments revolve around the “process”. It is very clear from the ref’s remarks in the beginning that he has no idea what, specifically, that “process” is. It’s hard to find something when you don’t know what you’re looking for.

  290. By bill on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    ok let get this right,if you go up for the ball. Have both feet in and control,get nocked out of endzone Not a catch?

  291. By rholb on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    Did anyone else noticed that the ref called it a touchdown before the rest of the BS happened?

  292. By Jim Witham on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    I have watched many professional games in my lifetime and cannot believe the ruling on this one. He clearly caught the ball PERIOD! The rule needs to be changed for the loyal fans who sit on the edge of their couch every week only to be let down when even the officials can’t make up their minds.
    It’s watching games likes this that reaffirm my convictions that college football is a much more exciting product to watch.

    Jim W.

  293. By Rick on Sep 15, 2010 | Reply

    He caught the ball with two hands. Landed on both feet (that alone should be touchdown). He then held the ball out with one hand for the ref at the goal line to see because he was bumped after the catch (who then signaled touchdown with arms above his head). He landed on his left knee (touchdown) and then landed on his behind (TD, TD, TD). He then turned to get up after seeing TD signaled. You guys are morons and unable to admit mistakes. Just more BS from the National Fixed League (NFL).

  294. By jess on Sep 15, 2010 | Reply

    the call is just another among bad calls over many years worth in lions football , i was watching last year with my brother in law the biggest bears fan i know when he said turn it off ,the lions cant win when they have to beat the bears and the refs.

  295. By Carly (Lions Fan) on Sep 15, 2010 | Reply

    Only will this happen to the Lions. To the guy up there that said this happens all the time, I have NEVER heard of this “process” they speak of. Lions win. We are 1-0. We got royally screwed over. Even the Bears Fans think so. Overturn this, and give us the win. We deserve it.

  296. By Thomas Smith on Sep 15, 2010 | Reply

    This call is a humiliation for the NFL. Sport has been sacrificed to referee interference! I don’t know how many true sports fans based on what they saw, gave up on watching a sport taken over by officials who have lost contact with reality. To think that they are immune and enjoy impunity might give them a feeling of security as they defend the undefendable, but surly there will be long term consequences for allowing this aberration to stand. They have taken fair play out of NFL football, and this is a sure receipt for decline! From America’s sport they have created America’s sham.

  297. By Dan on Sep 15, 2010 | Reply

    Bottom line, they contradicated themselves… The said, “The ruling on the field stands”. The ruling on the field was TOUCHDOWN. The ref was right in front of Calvin. If there was ANY discrepancy, they are supposed to go by the ruling on the field. It was obvious to me and about a million other viewers. Seriously, I believe someone got PAID…

  298. By Detroit Lions #1 on May 3, 2012 | Reply

    I’m STILL ticked off about that garbage call, started our season off on a bad foot.

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